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The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman.
Yes! I think I read it at the same time as Raspberry Jam – I seem to remember a battered copy of Penguin’s Greatest Short Stories Ever (or something) at home when I was a teenager. It was a treasure house….
Hi Brigid, here’s my answer… It’s a story, and it’s short. Short did not used to mean short, the short story has been shrinking for some time – see my post on “How Long is a Short Story” on Lane 7 for more detail but here’s the meat of it:
“Chekhov is often referred to as a master of the short story, but his stories can seem surprisingly unbrief to a modern reader, clocking in at often upwards of 10,000 words a tale.”
http://ashfeldt.com/2009/06/19/how-long-is-a-short-story/
Then there’s the influence of twitter on brevity generally…. 😉 Where will it end?
Thanks Lane. William Boyd may have been less concerned with size and focused more on the tools at a short story writer’s disposal, but size does define most writing and is an integral part of the structure. Have stories shrunk over the years? Chekhov was writing at the end of the 19th century – before film and television and radio, before stories were piped into our homes 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week so I guess the last thing people wanted back then was flash fiction.
It’s amusing in the context of his own remarks on brevity, Bridget. I have a feeling more people talk abt Chekhov and even use the word Chekhovian (sp?) than have actually read his stories. Today his stories might fall in the gap between a [longer] short story and the rarely sighted novella.
His idea of brevity was different from ours I guess…and his ideas about writing prose (not tying up all the loose ends etc) have probably been more influential than his practice (not including his plays of course in that…)
This was helpful. Thanks for the post. I have to admit I prefer short stories that take me someplace (I also prefer to read novels, generally). Snapshots don’t excite me much. But I recognize that Munro and Pritchett are in the mainstream here, not me, at least for what I’ve seen of literary short stories.
Thanks John. Seems to me that just as some writers don’t suit the short story format some readers can’t get on with either…after all one size doesn’t fit all
Fair enough. But couldn’t we push that point a bit further, and say there’s more than one kind of good short story? Say, the snapshot sort and the journey sort? I’m not suggesting everybody should like the same kind. For instance, I really like a short story (as I said) that takes me somewhere. Another person might like the snapshot. Doesn’t mean only one of those is a real short story.
I think the best short stories always need re-reading.
I’m never able to pin myself down to one favourite. You’ve named three of mine, and one that I’ve never heard of, but if it’s stayed with you since you were 12, must be good – my equivalent to that is Katherine Mansfield’s, The Daughter’s of the Late Colonel.
I think the best anything deserves re-reading…I didn’t want to leave Katherine Mansfield out but I just couldn’t remember the titles of any her stories. Now you’ve given me a nudge isn’t there one about a garden party (that could be the title) that starts mid sentence. Something like: And then they decided…wonderful feeling that they were all busy doing something before the story started and would be getting on with their lives after the end.
Yes, I love ‘The Garden Party’, too. I’ve just looked up the beginning again: ‘And after all the weather was ideal.’ It is an amazing opening line.
Thanks for ‘Raspberry Jam.’ I see why it’s haunted you.
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Thanks Cathum for looking the Kathrine Mansfield story up. Glad you like Raspberry Jam. There’s a line in it about an old woman walking with the confidence of someone who had once been beautiful. Delicious.
My favourite hort story is actuallly Kelly Link’s “The Faery Handbag” which is in her book Pretty Monsters
http://kellylink.net/magic-for-beginners/magic-for-beginners-sample-stories/the-faery-handbag
Thanks for this – I’ve never come across this writer but am definitely going to look her up.
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I struggle with writing short stories. When I came across this from Bridget Whelan just had to reblog.
Thanks so much for the reblog
Thanks for this. I find short story writing exceptionally hard. I prefer writing longer pieces of work, so read this with interest and have reblogged.
Thanks for this post – I’ve really grown to enjoy short stories since I’ve been studying Creative Writing at university, and Hills Like White Elephants is definitely one of my favourites. I agree that not everyone can write short stories and that they are incredibly difficult to judge given the shorter word count, but equally I find them much more enjoyable to write than longer works.
It’s horses for courses, isn’t it? A good novelist isn’t necessarily a good short story writer and vice3 versa
What We Talk About When We Talk About Love by Raymond Carver and two recently discovered short story authors are Lydia Davis and Deborah Eisenberg.
Love the Raymond Carver story but haven’t come across the other two authors — thank you for the recommendation
You’re welcome. Lydia Davis won the Man Booker Prize – enjoy!
Doh! Should have recognised her name – should read her!
I recently reread “the yellow wallpaper” and it still gives me chills. Anything by Katherine Mansfield is excellent.
I must go back and re-read some of these….
I am just re-reading Ali Smith’s ‘The First Person and other stories’ (Penguin, 2008) – and in the title story, there is included a list of definitions offered by many well knowns. Here they are – (sorry, its long, but all lovely, all relevant): Kafka: the short story is a cage looking for a bird. Tzvetan Todorov – a short story is so short it doesn’t allow us the time to forget that it is only literature and not actually life. Nadine Gordimer: short stories are absolutely about the present moment, like the brief flash of a number of fireflies here and there in the dark. Elizabeth Bowen: The short story has the advantage over the novel of a special kind of concentration – it creates narrative each time absolutely on its own terms. Eudora Welty: short stories often problematise their best interests – that’s what makes them interesting. Henry James: short stories can give a particularised perspective on both complexity and continuity. Borges: short stories can be the perfect form for novelists too lazy to write anything longer than fifteen pages. Ernest Hemingway says short stories are made by their own change and movement, and even when a story seems static and you can’t make out any movement at all, it is probably moving and changing regardless. William Carlos Williams – the short story is the only real form for describing the brokenness and simultaneous wholeness of people’s lives. Walter Benjamin: short stories are stronger than real lived moment because they can go on releasing the real lived moment after the real lived moment is dead. Cynthia Ozick says the difference between the short story and the novel is a book whose journey, if its a good working novel, actually alters the reader, whereas a short story is more like a talismanic gift to the protagonist of a fairy tale – something complete, powerful, which can be held in the hands or tucked into the pocket and taken through the forest on a dark journey. Grace Paley: chooses to write only short stories because life is too short, and stories are by nature about life, and life is always found in dialogue and argument. Alice Munro: every short story is at least two stories. There you are – some strike me as rather forced, coming from writers on the spot trying too hard to be original. But I think the aggregate proves that if you try to define the short story in quantitative terms you will fail substantially. (Aside – I’m just writing one. So fat, I am at 8, 200 words. It will be pushing 10k when it’s finished. Edited back, to c 9? who knows – I used to think I wrote between 250 and 2500, mostly. We change. So do stories. The best, for me – The Ledge by Lawrence Sargeant Hall. Written in 1960, he is not known for much else. It is a humdinger. It can be found online, and somewhere I can be found online reading it for something called ‘Read me Something You Love’.
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